[Papervision3D] vamos a la playa! :)

[Trevor Burton]

The speculation around hardware support for Flash Player seems to be
constant... there may, in future be some form of hardware support in future
versions of Flash but at the moment the desire from Adobe to keep the player
download small and the ability of the Flash Player to render content in
EXACTLY the same way on every system is the driving force behind there NOT
being any hardware support so far...

...As soon as there's hardware support there will be a need for a variety of
low-level libraries to try and provide everyone with a similar experience
and we'll all start having the sort of issues faced by C++ developers about
which system to use which we're lucky to be free from right now...

...for a long time a lot of Actionscript developers have been hacking away
at producing 3D solutions for flash, either for production jobs or  just for
our own amusement... now PV3D has come along everyone's talking about
hardware support and wanting more, more, more! It'll probably come at some
point in the next couple of years... until then we have to be sneaky, crafty
and clever in the way that we develop applications in order to produce what
we want...

Developers who worked on early systems like the spectrum and amiga had to be
clever and find ingenious ways to use the limited resources at their
disposal. We're in the same position now as they were then but we have
access to all the tricks that they came up with. Let's stand on the
shoulders of those giants and create some cool stuff. Then when hardware
support comes along we'll be all the more skilled for it and take it even
further.

But that's just like, you know, my opinion, man....

T

On 4/6/07, Sebastian Mohr <sebastian.mohr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ralph,
>
> what's the name of Adobe's 3D api for the FlashPlayer? Will
> it be included into the FlashPlayer 10? Where can I have look
> at it?
>
> Maybe the Tamarin-Project is the key to the need
> to access hardware-accelerating components:
>
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tamarin/
>
> ???
>
> Regards,
> masu
>
>
> On 4/6/07, Ralph Hauwert <r.hauwert at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > Welcome to the list. I think we all feel PV3D has some future, in one
> > way or another. Even if Adobe starts having their own 3D api with hardware
> > support, PV3D's API will be a nice stepping stone towards it for most
> > developers. But this is all just pure speculation, we don't know what we'll
> > get in the new release in the Flash Player....
> >
> > Ralph.
> >
> > On 4/6/07, Sebastian Mohr < sebastian.mohr at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Marcin,
> > >
> > > welcome, I'm new to this maillinglist to :)
> > >
> > > Do you have a website for this
> > >
> > >   "ESRI WebArc Explorer"-Viewer
> > >
> > > where I can have a look at it?
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > masu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/6/07, Marcin Czech < loobuz at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thats my first post so hello everyone!
> > > > Im a student doin research on web 3D and GIS systems.
> > > > I saw someone mentioning PaperEarth3D.. so here is my 50cents
> > > > GIS systems are kind of visualization of geo data, making decisions,
> > > > planings etc on it. That kind of buisness exploded when google released its
> > > > google maps. The market is evolving and so are technologies. Few months ago
> > > > ESRI the main player on GIS released WebArc Explorer based on Adobe Flex
> > > > (ActionScrpit 3.0) with is more fancy google maps. However still 2D.
> > > > There is a big demand on 3D in web, thats a fact and there are several
> > > > technologies to make it going. There are no stable standards of 3D at the
> > > > moment. X3D is good as a representation of files, but the players (Flux for
> > > > instance) require another plug-in to be installed. People dont like to
> > > > install plugins, thats life. There is a plug-in however  - Flash Player. 90%
> > > > of ppl got it. Stable, supported by a big player Adobe, and it has nice 3D
> > > > open source engine :) created by programmers for programmers - that is how
> > > > the practical standards are created. Now my point here is that for me
> > > > PaperVision3d has a bright future, it can (it is already) used on web pages,
> > > > used for presentations, its soon gonna be standard like Flash became a
> > > > standard for 2D. If Adobe will take a deeper look at 3D on web, and it will
> > > > (that is called progress) - things can become more fancy for PaperVision3D.
> > > > Now I mentioned about the deal between Adobe and ESRI (GIS). I find
> > > > PaperVision3D as a great tool to give 3D city representations on public.
> > > > First of all there is plenty of city data created, very simple based on XML
> > > > (city GML), so that it wont be a bottleneck for engine. Now image goin
> > > > through your virtual city in your browser. Anyone can do that - coz everyone
> > > > got FPlayer, and i think cities would pay money to get that kind of online
> > > > presentation on their web pages or just to present the city on some
> > > > exhibitions outside the country for instance. Didnt convince u? how about
> > > > using Flex and WebServices to get data from Geo Servers at runtime. Or how
> > > > about multiplayer real city with video cams and chats? My point here is that
> > > > Flex + PV3D will find nice place to live here in GIS systems environment.
> > > > Its just its practical usage and simplicity.
> > > >
> > > > P.S sorry for my english
> > > >
> > > > Marcin Czech
> > > > www.sauax.boo.pl
> > > > http://gisflex3d.blogspot.com/
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Trevor Burton
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