[Papervision3D] Another blog post that completely misses the point

[tomsamson]

yeah, so true.
sure a big part of the web audience doesn´t know well or care about in 
which technology something was done.
On the other side a big portion of that group will also not get another 
plugin just because its meant to show a 3d demo on a single site.
Flash was only meant to be a small filesize vector animation tool at the 
beginning but meanwhile its used for pretty much any (dynamic) media 
intensive content on the web; animations, games, 
(micro)sites,RIAS,streaming and progressive video delivery etc, so yeah, 
even if average joe doesn´t care in which technology something is done, 
he normally cares about what all he can experience when he has a certain 
plugin and what all he can´t access when he doesn´t have that certain 
plugin.
Meanwhile flash is so widespread that a user without the plugin will 
have a similar crippled web surfing experience as if he had js turned 
off and a non css capable browser.
That´s why another plugin whose only strength over flash is certain kind 
of 3d support can´t rival flash´s spreading.
Another big reason is that flash has a huge developer base which leads 
to tons of new content each day while other plugins of course have to 
try to get to a similar developer count in several years.
 If besides half tech aware average joe one looks at a total tech 
uninformed person, even that person would quickly realize that pretty 
much all casual end consumer media content featuring sites ask for the 
flash plugin to be installed.
Its kind of a loop really cause on the other end of the chain clients 
running major entertainment portals etc care about how many users can 
experience their content and therefore most would opt for using flash 
compared to going for something that has no installed userbase in 
comparison.
If one tries to sell director content today, chances are worse than for 
flash content, it gets even more tricky if one tries to sell even more 
exotic plugin driven content
(I´m looking at you, virtools),even more if next to beeing not 
widespread enough the plugin also has stability issues on various system 
setups (i´m looking at you again,virtools ;-) )




Adam Robertson wrote:
> Exactly, no one except us geeks cares. Even people 'in the biz' don't 
> care (try asking your PM if they prefer Sandy or PV? ;)
>
> PV3D is a million miles behind what Director had a few years ago. 
> People like WildTangent have also been doing this stuff for years and 
> many other plugins have really cool extras like Havok built in. In the 
> bigger picture of 'cool 3d on the web' PV3D is still a very minor 
> player, and if someone did a real indepth comparison to some of the 
> big boys I guess it would of come off pretty badly on just about every 
> count except plugin download size.
>
> On the other hand, it's fun, it's interesting and you're probably 
> gonna get to do some real work in it (you wouldn't believe the trouble 
> we used to have trying to sell 3d director work to clients), so I'd 
> suggest we all stop waving dicks around and get on with making cool 
> stuff, or these 'my engines better than yours' links are gonna get 
> very boring very fast :)
>
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