[Papervision3D] Another blog post that completely misses the point

[Steven Hargrove]

Thats understood, but you see Carlos, You are missing the point....

Flash IS Flash. It was not built to be some uber 3D engne. It was first
intended as a lightweight vector based application.

SInce then it has obviously improved and progressed. PV3D is not a "GODLY"
3D engine.But, when it comes to flash, this is DEFINITELY a big step ahead.

To compare it with any other 3D engine really makes no sense at all. It
would be like comparing a ship to a rowboat that can row for you!

PV3D at this moment as I see it, is a toy, which I love. What is important
imho, is to notice how far along flash has come, and PV3D is a good example
of that. There really is nothign to compare it too, because its use is
intended in such a different area then your traditional 3D


Just my $0.02





On 2/28/07, Carlos Pinho <cpinho at bluebottle.com> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> Hello!!!
>
> Let me 1st introduce my self. My name is Carlos, and i'm the person who
> made the "non sense" comparison between PV3D and Sandy 3D. After read your
> e-mails, pls let me explain the following:
>
> 1st, when i told that PV3D wasn't alone, it was because Sandy 3D was
> unknown to me. I heard a lot about PV3D, and now i could check some demos,
> which i can tell you that are great. The post on
> http://flashenabled.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/flash-3d-open-source-projects-3d-papervision-vs-sandy-3d/wasn't intend to tell that PV3D doesn't worth anything, or that Sandy 3D was
> better. What i tried to expose on that post, it was what a user can
> experiment. Remember that there is lot's of persons that don't have
> knowledge about 3D programming. They just want a tool that can help them to
> improve, easily and faster their work. So i believe that you should
> distinguish the opinions you read at the blocs. You should see what 3d
> developers have to say regarding the engine, and the AS3 programming
> structure and technical issues, and on the other hand, you should ear what
> the final user can feel and experience when using the program.
>
> Sorry about my English, but i'm pretty sure, that i'm still better
> speaking English than you Portuguese... lol. this was just to be funny, so
> you can laugh a Little bit more...
>
> Tnx in advanced for your excellent work and
>
> All the best.
>
> Best Regards,
> Carlos Pinho
>
> Quoting Ron Valstar <ron at sjeiti.com>:
>
> > plugins like this one: http://www.virtools.com/
> >
> >
> > Pete Hobson wrote:
> > > Well...  there is the point, that although we are going all crazy
> >
> > > that this is 3d - on the web - and in flash... but
> > >
> > > i don't think my mum cares too much...
> > >
> > > She just cares that its 3d and on the web (ok, she doesn't really
> >
> > > care at all)
> > >
> > > The point is (i think) that these plugin people are the real
> > > competition out there, an the general public are not going to
> > forgive
> > > a few display glitches here and there  just because its running
> > on
> > > flash not some other plugin.
> > >
> > > On 28 Feb 2007, at 17:24, tomsamson wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Yeah, this is even weirder than the Sandy comparison (which
> > didn´t
> > >> make
> > >> much sense in the way it was done either).
> > >> Not just that those are two totally different engines and
> > different
> > >> models/demos were used for comparing the engines then, in this
> > >> "comparison" case the guy is comparing a totally different
> > >> technology/plugin with pv3d stuff, what sense is there in such
> > >> comparison? hm.. :-)
> > >> Slightly offtopic but any other pluin coming up would have to
> > get
> > >> around
> > >> flash´s limitations AND have at least most of flash´s strengths
> > to
> > >> stand
> > >> a propper chance to get similar widespread anytime soon, so
> > yeah, bad
> > >> luck for that other plugin ;-)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Carlos Ulloa wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> http://oddhammer.com/index.php/site/
> > >>>
> > media_machines_giving_papervision3d_a_run_for_its_money_in_boots
> > >>>
> > >>> C4RL05
> > >>> // noventaynueve.com <http://noventaynueve.com>
> > >>> // papervision3d.org <http://papervision3d.org>
> > >>>
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