[Papervision3D] PV3D as the basis for an FPS; Was: [Papervision3D Digest, Vol 4, Issue 12].

Thu Jan 4 09:12:25 EST 2007

I'd actually like to try a Mario Kart clone ... something along the  
lines of a racing game. This isn't only because it's something I'm  
planning on doing, but because racing games are very addictive.

As far as a first person shooter is concerned, the major difficulty  
is that in the speed of return for your actions. In Quake, one could  
easily (and extremely quick) spin 360, face down and rocket jump.  
Then in mid air switch weapons to a rail gun (q3 here) and pop  
someone out of mid air. To go down the FPS route requires a major  
attention to how fast the response time is for the user when they  
attempt to do something.

I think it's entirely possible though, and it's a great idea. I think  
Flash is ready for this.

Another thought is game play like Myth I/II/III. The 3rd person game  
play is also very attractive, and maybe more so for the Flash  
platform due to the fact that these RPGs suck you in with the story,  
more than the game play itself in some cases.

cheers,

jon

On Jan 4, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Ralph Hauwert wrote:

> To be perfectly honest, I do not think Flash as a platform is suited
> for anything which falls in the strict category FPS, simply because
> that would raise the bar to a whole other level; that being the level
> of Desktop gaming.
>
> As you said, Flash is a platform more then suited for casual gaming.
> I've not seen a "Casual" version of an FPS before, and although
> inventing that would be an achievement upon itself, I think
> intergrating pv3d as a part of a game which does fall withing this
> genre seems to be more viable to me. Let's make a real 3D rubics game,
> or a monkey ball clone, this would seem to me a way more viable, and
> for the moment a better showcase for PV3D.
>
> Regards,
> Ralph.
>
> On 1/4/07, Matthew Hare <matt.hare at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> tbh, I dont think anyone is going to compare Xbox and Flash. Web  
>> games arent
>> in that genre, in the same way YouTube isnt the same as your HD tv.
>>
>> Tens of thousands of people play games like tic tac toe, and  
>> scrabble on
>> line.
>>
>> Our products, like viral games, attract people in offices, and  
>> schools, time
>> wasters etc where they have 5 mins and they get hooked on  
>> gameplay, and pass
>> it around.
>>
>> So a 1st person shooter in flash is very attractive, if the  
>> gameplay suits.
>> It would be very cool, to have a game emailed around, where you  
>> can shout
>> across the office and get your friends playing online at the same  
>> time. A
>> few product placements and it's a commercial viability.
>>
>> it's a different type of market all together, your serious gamer  
>> may well
>> play both flash games and Xbox games, but what he expects will be  
>> different.
>>
>> Also, alot of people who play flash games ( in the office for  
>> example ) wont
>> have a 360, so we're exposed to different types of people as well.
>>
>> I say this, because i dont want anyone to be discouraged from  
>> working on
>> this project, it's an A Class project, and I cant wait as things  
>> develop.
>> You never know, as the flash VM improves, maybe we will be able to  
>> achieve
>> much better performances from it
>>
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> PS. as a marketing gimick, i'd like to see that 3D Rhino with a  
>> tatoo of
>> something political on it backside, and see where it gets :)
>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 10:46:29 -0800
>>> From: "Steven de la Torre | BLITZ" <sdelatorre at blitzagency.com>
>>> Subject: [Papervision3D]  Papervision3D Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58
>>> To: <Papervision3D at osflash.org>
>>> Message-ID:
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>>>
>>> Hey, I'm still catching up on the mailing list, but I just wanted  
>>> to say
>>> that I support your ideas about a custom format.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Creating a file format that reduces the amount of parsing  
>>> required by
>>> the Flash client seems like an important objective for us. We are  
>>> in a
>>> situation where we want to make all of this content, but we are  
>>> doing it
>>> in a time when the public expectation is so high. If some guy  
>>> just got
>>> off his PS3 or XBOX360 he might not think too much of a 3D world  
>>> that's
>>> only getting 10 FPS. A see that there are threads talking about  
>>> doing
>>> shooters and what not, I almost don't even want to look at them.  
>>> I want
>>> to do something like that so bad, but there is a substantial  
>>> amount of
>>> work ahead of us as far as pushing the engine as far forward as
>>> possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just think of all the things that would still need to be built on  
>>> top of
>>> what PaperVision3D offers so far! It's a lot of stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess I'm getting off on a tangent here. Bottom line, I support
>>> building custom tools that convert too and from the file formats of
>>> different existing tools and art/animation packages, it just makes
>>> sense.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> Steven de la Torre
>>> Lead Flash Developer
>>> Ph: 310-551-0200 x225
>>> Fax: 310-551-0022
>>> sdelatorre at blitzagency.com
>>>
>>> BLITZ
>>> 3415 South Sepulveda Boulevard, Suite 500
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>>>
>>>
>>
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