[Papervision3D] FP 9 r29d8
jakelewis
jakelewis at blueyonder.co.uk
Thu Jan 4 20:56:15 EST 2007
Yes, I did wonder why adobe released Flex2 and Flash Player 9 whilst Flash 9
Studio was still in beta. My guess is that Adobe new it was unstable and
built in the 'new version available' popup that came up a week or two back.
>>This is bleeding edge stuff anyhow, so I don't see an issue with requiring
at least r28.
The issue is that it is difficult to expect webmasters to accept content
that requires the majority of their visitors to download a plugin, even a
dot release update. We might be in danger of painting ourselves into a
free-flash-games-only corner if we constantly demand the latest release, as
these users are less resistant to plugin download, and the webmasters of
such sites know it. Consumer sites, such as Sony that Matt is developing for
will likely balk at the idea of sending their visitors off for a 1MB plus
download to see an interactive 3D presentation of their latest tech toy -
they'd far rather just show them safe old Flash 6 content. In my opinion
this is the reason that there has been no successful browser plugin launched
in the last 10 years or so: no installed base = no content created on major
sites = no increase in installed base.
The highway is littered with the burnt out carcasses of web3D plugins, each
sinking a good few million dollars, all failing for the same reason.
PaperVision3D can succeed because it utilizes the (certain to be) commonly
installed Flash player, and is open source rather than closed to protect the
returns of its financial investors. This isn't The Gimp following in the
wake of Photoshop, nor Blender lagging behind Max/Maya (with all due
respects to their developers), its open source succeeding where proprietary
solutions totally failed.
I'd suggest we mark in stone the player release that is current when Flash 9
Studio is released or the last release that triggered a 'new version
available', whichever is earlier.
Jake
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[mailto:Papervision3D-bounces at osflash.org]On Behalf Of Yaakov Albietz
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:18 PM
To: Papervision3D at osflash.org
Subject: Re: [Papervision3D] FP 9 r29d8
>From talking with other Flex developers, flex 2/as3 wasn't
production-ready in versions prior to r28. (stability problems) This is
bleeding edge stuff anyhow, so I don't see an issue with requiring at least
r28.
On 1/4/07, jakelewis <jakelewis at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
We really should try and get the release code to run on as early a
version of flash 9 player as possible. Total browser installations are over
30% for Flash 9, and requiring a later release will reduce this number. The
sole reason for using Flash is that users don't have to download a plugin -
if we require the very latest bug fixed releases then we are losing this
advantage.
I may be missing something here as you guys are running debug players.
Jake
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[mailto:Papervision3D-bounces at osflash.org]On Behalf Of Yaakov Albietz
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:59 AM
To: Papervision3D at osflash.org
Subject: Re: [Papervision3D] FP 9 r29d8
just install r28. problem should be solved.
On 1/4/07, John Grden <neoriley at gmail.com> wrote:
yeah with r16 no problemo, but in those other versions, there's
problems. Is anyone else seeing this?
On 1/4/07, Carlos Ulloa < c4rl054321 at gmail.com> wrote:
I had that problem when compiling with Flex, and it was an AS3
project.
I've got stand alone player r16.
C4RL05
// noventaynueve.com
// papervision3d.org
On 04/01/07, John Grden <neoriley at gmail.com > wrote:
can you confirm the stand alone player version you're running?
I don't think it'd make any difference between flex or pure as3 app. and
this is a pure as3 app - not flex
On 1/4/07, Carlos Ulloa <c4rl054321 at gmail.com> wrote:
Those problems seem to happen only when using flex. I haven't
experienced any sandbox issue with good old flash 9 alpha.
C4RL05
// noventaynueve.com
// papervision3d.org
On 04/01/07, John Grden < neoriley at gmail.com> wrote:
Is anyone else having problems with PV3D stuff not
displaying in that version of the player? It actually has problems in
r18d60
It feels like a sandbox security issue. I'm publishing with
FlashDevelop using mxmlc compiler with these options:
<!-- @mxmlc -o deploy/falcon.swf -default-size
900;500 -use-network=false -optimize=true -compiler.source-path C:\Documents
and Settings\John\My
Documents\Acmewebworks\Papervision3D\SVN\as3\trunk\src\ -->
Just wondering what in the world could be causing the
sandbox issue since all assets are relative to the swf
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